At 3/20/25 07:10 PM, alsoknownas1 wrote:In light of the reroll, I just wanted to thank everyone who complained.

Many of you are too busy to comment on the P-Bots most days, and yet when there was a winner you didn't like you took the time to specifically call them out. That's what this site needs more of. Thanks to you, kids who browse with A turned on won't be exposed to a scene I've literally passed on my way to work but will instead learn that ******* on a girl's face when she doesn't want it is a hilarious punchline. It's true when they say not all heroes wear capes.

I salute you and the rest of team skeet!

At 3/21/25 12:38 AM, alsoknownas1 wrote:

At 3/20/25 10:30 PM, BrandyBuizel wrote:[One wrong decision doesn't undermine a correct one.]

Of course it does. Surely you and others raising concerns have the end goal of "protecting the children" and aren't just enjoying a bureaucratic LARP? From an outcome based perspective, 100% this situation was made worse via intervention. "The children" went from being exposed to inappropriate sexual material to being exposed to misogynistic and degrading sexual material. That is objectively a worse outcome and trying to claim a partial victory because "correct" steps were taken along the way is ridiculous on its face.

At 3/21/25 02:01 AM, BrandyBuizel wrote:Re-rating the original 5th place winner and then running the script(manually) for p-bot to do a re-roll(automatic, but with an added parameter to remove adult content from the re-roll) finally put what was 6th place in front of everyone's eyes and they reacted the same as when they saw the previous 5th place. Nobody chose that entry manually for 5th place so it stands to reason that the mod didnt even watch or see the replacement entry. What are the chances there'd be 2 re-rolls today? Let's face it, no one really looks at the 6-10th place hyperlinks cause they dont have a fancy css embed, so people looking at the dailies, like always, won't notice or flock to an entry outside the top 5

At 3/21/25 02:40 AM, alsoknownas1 wrote:

At 3/21/25 02:01 AM, BrandyBuizel wrote:[...] Why did you edit my quote with your own summary of what you think I said? [...]

Because this site has terrible formatting and everyone is free to scroll up and see if how I mis-characterized your position? Calm down. If I was attempting any kind of clever solipsism, I wouldn't have used editorial brackets.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracket#Square_brackets

At 3/21/25 02:01 AM, BrandyBuizel wrote:
[...] The point I was actually trying to make is that the new 5th place entry was a previously unknown error, now known, that can also be corrected like the original. [...]

I don't actually see how that's substantively different from my summary? Either way, I reject your framing of these as two independent incidents. An action that didn't need to be taken was taken and the overall situation is now worse. I don't care if people "didnt even watch or see the replacement entry" because I don't care about people's unknowable brain states except in-as-much as theorizing about it makes my ability to predict their behavior more accurate. I don't care what was in people's soul or that the odds "there'd be 2 re-rolls today" are slim. I care about outcomes. An action was taken, the situation is worse. Ergo: the action was bad. Your circus. Your monkey. Arguing that an action that made things worse is good because you can spin some wordcel causal narrative about how it seemed like the right thing to do or was the right thing "in isolation" is the height of mid-wittery.

Of course I'm not throwing shade on Bacun. I just want to know why he qualifies for party membership butt (pun intended) not Gurumo. Is it that Gurumo's women are drawn more obviously of age? That's not on Bacun or his chunk style. It just seems to be a general delineator of what sexy art does and does not make the front page.

also thank you for clarifying "no shade on bacun" at the bottom
it's genuinely appreciated cause now i know you weren't putting one of my friends on blast

It's sad that even though qualifiers are put on speech to keep the sensitive from freaking out, they go ahead and freak out because they cannot help themselves. Bacun gets Frontpaged and put into Monthly Voting with sexualized images each month. This is a fact. EVEN THOUGH @TOM SAID SEXY CANNOT BE IN THE MONTHLY. I get Frontpaged practically monthly, and yet, I'm not in the Monthly Voting. Very strange. Perhaps I should change my characters' proportions to be more in line with the "Approved Sexy"? Can you give me some pointers since he's your friend?

At 3/21/25 02:01 AM, BrandyBuizel wrote:

At 3/21/25 12:38 AM, alsoknownas1 wrote:

At 3/20/25 10:30 PM, BrandyBuizel wrote:[One wrong decision doesn't undermine a correct one.]

Of course it does. Surely you and others raising concerns have the end goal of "protecting the children" and aren't just enjoying a bureaucratic LARP? From an outcome based perspective, 100% this situation was made worse via intervention. "The children" went from being exposed to inappropriate sexual material to being exposed to misogynistic and degrading sexual material. That is objectively a worse outcome and trying to claim a partial victory because "correct" steps were taken along the way is ridiculous on its face.

Why did you edit my quote with your own summary of what you think I said? That's not the point I was trying to make and you had to rewrite it to make it sound like I said something dumb instead? The point I was actually trying to make is that the new 5th place entry was a previously unknown error, now known, that can also be corrected like the original.

Re-rating the original 5th place winner and then running the script(manually) for p-bot to do a re-roll(automatic, but with an added parameter to remove adult content from the re-roll) finally put what was 6th place in front of everyone's eyes and they reacted the same as when they saw the previous 5th place. Nobody chose that entry manually for 5th place so it stands to reason that the mod didnt even watch or see the replacement entry. What are the chances there'd be 2 re-rolls today? Let's face it, no one really looks at the 6-10th place hyperlinks cause they dont have a fancy css embed, so people looking at the dailies, like always, won't notice or flock to an entry outside the top 5

also thank you for clarifying "no shade on bacun" at the bottom
it's genuinely appreciated cause now i know you weren't putting one of my friends on blast

At 3/21/25 03:48 AM, CrimsonKero wrote:

At 3/21/25 02:01 AM, BrandyBuizel wrote:

At 3/21/25 12:38 AM, alsoknownas1 wrote:

At 3/20/25 10:30 PM, BrandyBuizel wrote:[One wrong decision doesn't undermine a correct one.]

Of course it does. Surely you and others raising concerns have the end goal of "protecting the children" and aren't just enjoying a bureaucratic LARP? From an outcome based perspective, 100% this situation was made worse via intervention. "The children" went from being exposed to inappropriate sexual material to being exposed to misogynistic and degrading sexual material. That is objectively a worse outcome and trying to claim a partial victory because "correct" steps were taken along the way is ridiculous on its face.

Why did you edit my quote with your own summary of what you think I said? That's not the point I was trying to make and you had to rewrite it to make it sound like I said something dumb instead? The point I was actually trying to make is that the new 5th place entry was a previously unknown error, now known, that can also be corrected like the original.

Re-rating the original 5th place winner and then running the script(manually) for p-bot to do a re-roll(automatic, but with an added parameter to remove adult content from the re-roll) finally put what was 6th place in front of everyone's eyes and they reacted the same as when they saw the previous 5th place. Nobody chose that entry manually for 5th place so it stands to reason that the mod didnt even watch or see the replacement entry. What are the chances there'd be 2 re-rolls today? Let's face it, no one really looks at the 6-10th place hyperlinks cause they dont have a fancy css embed, so people looking at the dailies, like always, won't notice or flock to an entry outside the top 5

also thank you for clarifying "no shade on bacun" at the bottom
it's genuinely appreciated cause now i know you weren't putting one of my friends on blast

It's a bit late now.

At 3/21/25 03:53 AM, BrandyBuizel wrote:if you're referring to the re-roll script I just wanna clarify it's completely retroactive. it can be ran whenever and has been on some items even years back as a way to give awards to someone new when a submission that won originally had been deleted for whatever reason in the past

I literally only mentioned it because I legitimately appreciate the transparency and clarification. People can insult your friends to get to you, happens all the time online. his statement reassured me he wanted a discussion and wasn't trying to attack me personally though that friend

At 3/21/25 04:10 AM, KittyhawkMontrose wrote:

At 3/21/25 04:04 AM, BrandyBuizel wrote:I just don't see how that's relevant. I'm not an art mod, I can't frontpage bacun or anyone else. I don't know all the mods or their preferences and biases so I can't answer you why you don't get frontpaged as often

It's cool. I'm just talking in public about how one figures out what is sexy and what is "sexy". I know you don't have all the answers, but I thought you might have some suggestions.